Horrible versions of cars you generally like.

"V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me!" (v8demon) 01/28/2015 at 23:41 • Filed to: None

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Take a look at most cars and you can find good AND bad. Some makes/models were a step backwards certain years or had almost no redeeming qualities at all.

Example: 1974-78 Mustang II

A neutered shell of it's former self due to the oil crisis of the '70's that was thankfully replaced by the fox platform.

Post up examples of your own.

Anon > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/28/2015 at 23:48

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The FC RX7. I love the FB and the FD to death but the FC is just plain fugly!

SVTyler > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/28/2015 at 23:49

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For a specific generation I'd go Iron Duke-powered F-bodies, criminal waste of one of the 80's most underrated designs. Not that the V8-powered ones were much better, my old man had an old IROC-Z almost exactly like the one above that and it was only about .3 seconds faster to sixty than my Focus.

Steve in Manhattan > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/28/2015 at 23:52

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Buick Skylark - a once decent marque defiled by being slapped on an X-Car.

GhostZ > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/28/2015 at 23:57

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This generation of Maxima, which was an oversized, overweight, boring version following one of the best FWD sports sedans ever.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > SVTyler 01/29/2015 at 00:04

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These embraced EVERYTHING that the '80's were. Because of that they aged poorly in the '90's and '00's. There seems to be a renaissance with them as of late I've noticed. I don't see very many of these in the northeast US. Salt was particularly cruel to them.

Cherry_man1 > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 00:22

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I would have to say the S197 Mustang V6's

I loved mine!

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > Cherry_man1 01/29/2015 at 00:29

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See I've driven these in V6 and the 99-04 as well. V6 to V6 the S197 wins IMO.

El Rivinado > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 00:30

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The 9th generation of Cadillac Eldorado.

How this miserable looking little turd managed to carry one of the most prestigious nameplates GM had, I have no idea The Toronado and Riviera stablemates look miles better than this putrid little thing.

SVTyler > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 00:30

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Not a lot of them left in the Midwest either. I think it's definitely an 80's car but (imo) it's held up rather well: it's not an ugly car in the least and while you can definitely tell it's an 80's design it has a certain... timelessness? Not the exact word but of all the cars of the era I'd put the F-body up there as one of the ones you can look at today and say, man that still looks good. Could just be nostalgia but I do like those cars a lot...

Cherry_man1 > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 00:31

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Ya it was the bitch motor for every SUV Ford had really it was in the 2002 Explorer SportTrac and what not. I swear mine has about 225HP cause it beat a stock fox body when it had a 93 oct tune on it.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > Cherry_man1 01/29/2015 at 00:51

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210 from the factory and the newer ECU's actually can gain a noticeable increase in power from a reflash, especially to a 93 octane tune. Picking up 10-15 HP on a 4.0 wouldn't be out of the norm....

That and you'd be surprised just how bad a 5.0 pushrod can run before the average non-car person notices.....

"I HAVE 225 HP!!!"

Yeah, you're blowing more oil than a Cummins, dude.

BTW, a buddy has a 2006 V6 with a Vortech supercharger. Makes 300 to the tires .

SlickMcRick > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 01:20

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I nominate the Chevy Nova. In two generations they fell mighty far.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Anon 01/29/2015 at 01:30

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You and I must be looking at two different cars.

FD is gorgeous, FB/SA22C is good for it's era... FC is under-rated, and one of the best 80's era cars.

Fox Mustang, 3rd gen F-body Pontiac Firebird, and Porsche 944, and all their best aesthetic features, combined into a 2-seat light weight sports car 3-door fastback with a rotary engine.

A bit of lowering, and better wheel fitment than those base steelies make a world of difference.

not for canada - australian in disguise > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 01:31

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USDM Mk2 Focus, hate it hate it hate it hate it, they turned a rather excellent little car, available in countless configurations, then turned it into a coupe and sedan only Corolla.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 01:42

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Mustang II, and other malaise cars like GM's V8 Vega... are the next generation of affordable resto-mods.

60's and early 70's muscle cars are no longer affordable, thanks to televised auctions making everyone think that anything from that era is worth 6 or 7 figures.

It is amazing what simple things like lowering, raking (lower in the front than the back), and fitting a bit more modern-proportioned wheels can do to cars like Mustang II, which actually has better suspension, and lighter weight than previous cars... and modern power train upgrades can make HUGE improvements in performance and drivability.

Simply lowering a Cobra II over 16 or 17" BBS wheels, and moderately low profile tires, (bigger than rubber bands, much lower than original 14" balloon bias-ply OE tires) is a big improvement.

I think the next thing will be monochrome paints, and vintage-style low-offset alloy wheels, maybe some over-fenders... like an american alternative to vintage JDM cars that are also getting expensive, even for rare US availability for donors.

pip bip - choose Corrour > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 02:13

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2002-2005 V2 Holden Monaro/04-06 Pontiac GTO but with L67 s/c V6 motor (Australia/NZ only) or the LHD export only to Arab countries 02-04 Chevrolet Lumina S coupe with naturally aspirated V6.

Cherry_man1 > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 03:04

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Nice lol

AMC/Renauledge > El Rivinado 01/29/2015 at 03:20

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Not only did the Toro and Riv look better than the Calais-like Eldo, they weren't saddled with the HT4100 V8. They had the Buick 3.8L V6 with basically the same power, out of less displacement and fewer cylinders, and far better reliability.

JEM > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 09:41

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I've always wanted a '77-78 Cobra II though, love the look of them. Easy enough to upgrade performance-wise.

What I really hate are the bloated 71-73 models, never could stand how they looked.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > JEM 01/29/2015 at 10:17

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I actually don't mind the look either. My issue is PINTO platform and anemic engines along with typical piss poor handling. You can make just about anything perform/look/handle better.

These were a leap backwards though overall IMO. One they were able to recover from. The step back had a lot to do with the oil crisis of the time, this is true. The whole of the US auto industry got hit with an issue that NONE of them seemed to know how to answer.

They went smaller and lighter, which were good things. The IFS was a winner as well, copied by the aftermarket for retrofit into many hot rods and restomod type vehicles.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 01/29/2015 at 11:08

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Google "Monroe Handler".

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/29/2015 at 16:14

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That's a full work over though.